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arasner · #71 (**permalink**) 10-18-2006, 11:33 AM

Kelly first off, you can't support the people that sign up because I already do everyday, and it sounds like what you are doing is finding people that have signed up for gold calling and you are trying to CHARGE THEM Money to do something that I already show them! I'm not going to argue with you, and Yes My lending business is doing quite well thank you, I don't spend 4 hours a day on gold calling, I guess what I'm doing, I'm doing quite well and managing my time, Question KellyG Are you a mortgage broker? Didn't think so! Have you been a Succesful Mortgage Broker for 7 years? Didn't think so, then you don't know how to use this as well because you aren't a mortgage broker! End of thread!

Secret! · #72 (**permalink**) 10-18-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by arasner

Or Secret you could tell all the readers hear how you try to get them to go to your website and sign up for SOME GREAT SEMINAR THAT IS A MAGIC PILL THAT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING THEY WAY THEY WERE TAUGHT AND WILL BE GREAT ORIGINATORS and OH By the Way He does seminars for a living and doesn't even originate loans! And by the way anyone that wants gold calling can buy it from anyone they want, and I give FREE ADVICE, and Scripts and lead lists places I use with volume pricing, so secret I don't know where you are getting your info from!

You are correct there andy, I stopped originating quite some time ago, my own personal resume is on our website, so if you or anybody wants to check it out and see how weak I am, feel free! Matter of fact, all our Teacher/Mentors have their webiste posted there as well, so students can see they'll be taught by people who have done it.

Greg · #73 (**permalink**) 10-18-2006, 06:16 PM

No No Drama! You don't want no drama!

I think Gold Calling turns mortgage people into scrapers myself. Seriously read this thread. You 2 just argue and argue.

Both of you have infractions and red squares. You should be nice. Personal and business attacks on public web forums is just something you do not want.

Shameless behavior.

Well.. Do what ya want. I am going to watch Garfield 2 now. lol

Erik · #74 (**permalink**) 10-18-2006, 10:42 PM

Yeah I have to say that if I was ever interested in Gold Calling I'd have to rethink based on how all the reps act in the forums. I understand you guys are just competing for sales but it can be done with a little class, too.

carlo@CreditReportAtlas · #75 (**permalink**) 10-19-2006, 02:37 PM

Whose a better Gold Calling seller and who is really making money? Well, MBL is wide open right now to advertise the Gold Calling service.

Andy - Can you cough up $600 for 6 months unlimited PPC? If you're really turning around that many loans and business then prove it. Let's see who can sign-up first by going to http://www.mortgagebrokerland.com/advertise/

KellyG - Can you cough up $600 for 6 months unlimited PPC? If you're really the Master Distributor like you say you are, or if Gold Calling is really making you the BIG BUCKS then I'm sure $600 is nothing to you. Let's see who can sign-up first by going to http://www.mortgagebrokerland.com/advertise/

I'm sure you both will probably say, "Hey Carlo, I generate enough business to advertise in MBL or any website or any forum. I'm too big for that and I don't need it. All that matters is I'm making money and I don't have to prove anyone anything". Well, that's a nice thoughtout come back but it will probably make you look like a cheap poser if you even come-up with that type of response. So, to make this fun and exciting for us MortgageBrokerLandian... he/she (whatever you are) can step-up first is the man/woman (LOL.

) on top of the MORTGAGEBROKERLAND World.

BTW, I'm not profiting in any way on leading people to the MBL Advertisement. I just want my community to look good and presentable by having new banners on the site. Eric just added new banners and MBL is starting to look awesome. If MBL looks good, my banner (or your banner) will look good! Thus generating more traffic to our website(s).

So, quit your b17ch1n' and put your money where your mouth is! Put up or SHUT UP! Sorry so blunt but this Gold Calling "cat fight" has been going on forever so this is the only way to clean-up this mess.

Toootttuuuurrrooooooooo (Trumpet) Who is the MAN! Look at the crowd roar! Look at this kid! He's even excited to witness the winner of this contest. Come on Andy and KellyG! He looks so happy so let's not upset him by missing out a good contest.

Carlo: "Hey Jordan! Quit dancing darn it! Andy and KellyG will be starting this contest soon."

I LOVE IT!

arasner · #76 (**permalink**) 10-23-2006, 12:35 PM

Carlos you are a lead broker, we don't want to buy leads from you, they are almost all ripoffs!!!!! We all want to generate our own, that is the keys to the kingdom, as far as your childish add above grow up, and also you can spend a lot of money hear advertising since you suggested it, you can go advertise!!!! I let everyone know how well generating there own leads works and others agree, by having fsbo programs, and direct mailers and many other programs,not just buying leads from you! We are successful brokers that help each other not try to rip other people off! Have a little class and don't act like trailer trash!

arasner · #77 (**permalink**) 10-23-2006, 12:38 PM

Carlos you also say you are a FORMER Allfund loan officer, your trying to sell leads when your a former loan officer, how about becoming a loan officer again and instead of buying leads generate them yourself with gold calling and make a good living!

carlo@CreditReportAtlas · #78 (**permalink**) 10-23-2006, 12:59 PM

I'm a former All Fund Mortgage Loan Officer (That's correct!) and Yes! I'm a lead broker. So, what's your point? LOL. I bet you didn't know this Andy ~ we actually merged with a company that enabled us to add the follow services:

Leads, Credit Reporting, Title and Escrow. From Prospecting to Closing!

So, I'm not just selling leads anymore.. I'm actually educating LOs how to generate their own leads and helping them to close it. I have met plenty of brokers here at MBL and I'm sure they can vouch for me that I'm not just some type of money hungry salesman that's going to other forums to solicit a product to generate them a quick $1000.

BTW, with all the new added services - we don't just sell leads. We have to make sure our clients are generating results from our leads b/c where I make the big bucks is from Credit Reporting and Title Closing. As for you Andy, you probably resell your data 2-3 times then you make your other income from selling GC. So, who are you to say "how about becoming a loan officer again and instead of buying leads generate them yourself with gold calling and make a good living!"? How about try concentrating more on BEING a Loan Officer than trying to outsell KellyG in here and the other forums to market Gold Calling.

Why would someone pay $1499 for Gold Calling if LOs can use the VoiceBlast and only pay for the minutes. Ohhh... I get it! so the seller could profit $1,000 and GC can keep the $499 right? So who is really ripping off people? BTW, I have clients that I've referred to other lead brokers b/c I know they're good. Actually, let me tell you who they are so others can check them out.

Josh Wade at MoneyNest.com is pretty good.
Joey Lyle at DoublePositive.com I've heard pretty good testimonials.
TargetPublishers.com is reasonable and resulting.

I'm an honest person and I'm the type of individual that will let people know whos good and whos bad. BTW, as per your statement of "make a good living!", if you're truly making a good living then what's $600 to advertise in MBL? Put the money where your mouth you cheap poser!

I mean you Cheap Poster!! LOL.

arasner · #79 (**permalink**) 10-23-2006, 01:19 PM

Carlos your a liar, another lead broker lying his way to sell leads!!! I went to your link for voice broadcasting and again you a lead broker with OTHER SERVICES Such as voice broadcasting are charging 25 CENTS PER MINUTE, Are you on CRACK! That is ripping people off, With Gold Calling it's 3.5 Cents per minute! Yes there is a set up fee, BUT YOU GET A HELL OF A LOT MORE, Automated Contact Manager, ALL MORTGAGE SCRIPTS THAT ARE GOLDEN That I've used for over 3 years and perfected with Gold Calling and 1 Million leads and Do Not Call Scrubbing! And much more, quit Whining and Crying about how great you are! I have plenty of loans going Thanks to Gold Calling, and I've been Very Successful for 7 years with Carteret and I've used all types of Methods Carlos Most Brokers here have, I tell everyone about gold calling because it's so CHEAP for Calls, yes there is a large setup fee but that doesn't matter, On your Couple Broadcasts it pays for itself compared to what your LEAD Company Charges, And I don't have to pay for advertising here I have many referrals, I show Brokers a whole system and Give them all the Tools of what and how I generate enough leads for my Two Loan Offices! Your Company Is more than likely paying your advertising that is great and fine good for brokerland, but I generate my own business I do not need to pay for it like you are! Again I don't want any leads from you, I will never Get Ripped Off Again BY Lead Sellers I found the Secrets with Gold Calling on how you and other lead companies generate there leads and INFLATE THE Prices by 1000% for your leads, no one be fooled, start generating your own leads, you don't have to get gold calling through me it can be from whomever has it, but it truly will change the way you do business as a mortgage broker I attest to that and so does many mortgage brokers! Take Care and I have no problem with you being a LeadSalesman at all I just don't buy leads anymore I generate my own business! Thanks again

Greg · #80 (**permalink**) 10-23-2006, 06:16 PM

For the price of this Gold Calling you could have at least 64 live transfer leads including the 3.5 cents. I bet with 1499 you could work out a nice deal for 100-150 even with a volume discount.

Anyone getting a start and needing business will not need leads forever. 2 years tops and you should have worked a good enough system to have people calling you from referrals.

Arasner... Carlo is a very reputable lead provider. He does not rip people off. Also if someone says he did I am sure he did not mean too and would make things right always within reason. I really think you should be a little less bold with your posts by painting the whole lead provider business as liars and cheats.

Yes the majority is likely poor. But, Carlo is not. Give his company a call. You will know right away. It is not your average lead company.