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Old 05-22-2006, 10:33 AM
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Besides asking for me to buy a class from you what can you suggest?

There are scores of methods to attract potential applicants besides the hardest way - Realtors. Our best selling CD Lesson 98 Ways to Find Customers contains many dozens of ideas you have never even heard of - that work. Something you might condiser is picking up that CD, instead of beating your head against the wall the hard way
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Uh that means he has to buy a class from you... Maybe share 1 way on that cd with him in a PM and he might consider buying it..??
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Besides... you will have to spend money finding realtors anyway. Gas, Lunch, joining clubs, and so on.
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Awesome customer service, Secret... give them what they NEED, not what they WANT...lol
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One thing you will find is that those who complain that marketing to realtors is "so difficult" etc, typically are going about it the wrong way. Brushing your hair could be considered difficult if you're using a toothbrush... lol

There are huge advantages to bringing in loans this way. #1 is because you are creating duplication of effort. Ever wondered why the vast majority of top producing loan officers attribute more than 50% of their business to realtor referrals? If you play your cards right, it's like having your own mini sales people running around, and spreading the word about you and your services. Self promotion only gets you so far.

Now that we have that out of the way, I promise I'm not going to try and sell you something to give advice... lol

First, you want to begin with you. Who are you? What do you have to offer? Why would someone want to give you business? What is your competition saying to agents? What are they doing right and what are they doing wrong?

You need to arm yourself with a good level of "ammo" before beginning your program. Without the right ammo and planning, ANY program can and will fail.

Have you decided who you want to target yet? Read the article I just put together a few days ago. It's a great overview of what needs to be done before we begin discussing actual marketing strategies. :

Loan Officer Marketing S.O.S.!

Do you know what the word marketing means? Every day hundreds of thousands of loan officers go about their day looking for their next loan. Some have a solid plan in place that quickly identifies their next client. A majority of this group though, struggles and worries about how their next bill will get paid if they don’t find enough business soon.

Would you like to know what members of this group have in common? Most members of this group would have a very hard time describing what marketing is. Could you describe accurately what marketing is? How can we hope to master this multi-facetted art if we don’t even know what it entails? I think you will be surprised by the definition.

The American Marketing Association provides the following definition: “Marketing is an organizational function and a set of processes for creating, communicating, and delivering value to customers and for managing customer relationships in ways that benefit the organization and its stakeholders.”

So what can we take away from this definition and why should we care? Well, the answer to this is simple. Within this definition lies the key to making your marketing programs work.

Let’s begin with the necessary elements of a successful marketing campaign. A successful campaign will contain 3 core elements. Without these elements, it is doomed to failure before it can even get started. These 3 elements are:

1. Strategy
2. Planning
3. Execution

Nothing out of the ordinary there right? Within these 3 categories is contained a powerful approach to creating a successful business that will bring you all of the clients you could ever want. Why wait to find out what this approach is? Here it is:

Start out with the theme that will guide your marketing efforts. While everyone is different, a customer focused theme should run through all of your marketing efforts. My personal choice was “satisfying unfulfilled needs.”

If any of my marketing messages strayed off course, it was cut out of the program. Once you have your theme selected, you need to move forward with determining your strategy. This is the stage that most loan officers either rush through, or skip altogether.

This is a mistake. This step is essential to your success. Before moving on, you need to be able to answer these questions:


• Who are your most likely customers?
• What are their needs?
• What are their emotional influences?
• Where are they likely to be found?
• Where do they go to find information?
• What media do they frequent/rely on?
• What segments can be found within these groups? (Listing/Buyers/FSBO)
• Who is the competition?
• How is the competition marketing themselves?
• What are the competitions strengths and weaknesses?
• What are your strengths and weaknesses?
• How can you make your strengths known?

As you may already have noticed, marketing is about people. Yet many loan officers stumble through their entire careers without ever taking the time to identify who those people are. How can you ever hope to develop a loyal following of clients and referral business if you can’t answer even basic questions about them? How can you develop an effective marketing program that motivates your target to pick up the phone and call you, if you don’t even know who it is you’re trying to motivate?

Many originators seem to think that they can get away with just telling themselves that their target is “anyone who will give me business.” Unfortunately this is a quick way to find yourself with a dry pipeline. If your goal is to earn the income equivalent of a professional, then we need to become professionals ourselves.

A true professional would not need to think over the questions listed above. This step would have been planned out and recorded in writing from day 1. Skipping this step is akin to opening the doors to a retail store without knowing who, if anyone is interested in what you have to sell.

Take a look at the above list of questions. Take the time to methodically review and answer each question. Once you have completed this activity, you will be ready to move on to the next step.

I will cover the next step at a later date in part 2 of this article. In the meantime, you will have plenty of work to do as you discover the answers to these critical questions.


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Yea but the thing with realtors are they are like whores, and you are only as good as your last deal. So to that point find a young realtor that is starting out with you also. That way the 2 of you will grow and prosper together. Try to goto networking meetings in your area or city. Join the Chamber of Commerce if all possible.
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Besides asking for me to buy a class from you what can you suggest?
You already got an unqualified reply from me, in my long experience in this industry and having hired and been the employer for many thopusands of LO's, I have witnessed REALTOR Begging is ruthless; don't get me wrong - out of the many thousands of LO's who try it, there are indeed some who enjoy it and some who are successful -- my view is that it's the most difficult method however.

As to your point of requiring that I give you an answer which you like - unfortunately when it comes to discussion boards, strangers say generally what they want, you don't get to demand the sort of reply you like.

You almost make we want to apologize for stayimg in the biz for four decades and therefore I know "98 ways to Find Customers" - it' also the title of our best selling CD Lessons on our website, but you don't need to pick it up -- maybe you'll get an answer here from somebody that knows 99 or even 100 methods
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Uh that means he has to buy a class from you... Maybe share 1 way on that cd with him in a PM and he might consider buying it..??
As a general notion Grreg, that could be an idea worthy of consideration, except in this case the poster has already shown his bias against investing any money to help his career with his original reply to me. He'll get along without this CD Lesson.
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Realtors are like whores??? You're only as good as your last deal? Wow. I'm very concerned about what type of realtors you are working with bud. A well structured and professional relationship with a focused and targeted group does not run this way. Of course EVERYTHING in life is give and take at some level, but to say you are only as good as your last deal, means the agents you are working with do not see value beyond the surface.

Now if you are working with agents who are not high producers (The kind who are lucky to close 1 transaction a month) then your comments make more sense. These are the agents who view each transaction as life support as they are not closing enough deals to pay their bills if this 1 deal doesn't close. Just as there are plenty of loan officers giving the rest of us bad names, there are plenty of agents giving realtors a bad name. The difference is there are more than triple the amount of agents in the U.S., so you need to target your group wisely.



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