This got me 68 Closed loans last month, ck it out!

[kellyg]

Originally Posted by kellyg

though he bought the software from you, he couldn't really ever reach you for help after he bought it from you."

Meaning that he couldn't reach you because you're too busy writing all those loans....vs. if he purchased from a full time reseller.

[arasner]

Kelly what you are doing is SLANDER! First off, Timothy Hills has had Great Success with Gold Calling and I am not supposed to support Tim as the Company Gold Calling in Which you are also offering for SALE, HOWEVER ANYONE THAT SIGNS UP UNDER ME DOES GET MY SUPPORT, TIM HAS NEVER EXPRESSED THIS TO ME AND I WAS ON VACATION FOR 7 DAYS AND JUST GOT BACK THIS MORNING! SO THAT IS MAYBE WHY HE DID NOT HEAR FROM ME, US MORTGAGE BROKERS DO NEED A VACATION ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A MORTGAGE BROKER OR A SUCCESSFUL ONE AT LEAST BECAUSE YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND! I ALSO OFFER MARKETING AND SCRIPT SUPPORT AND EVEN GIVE PEOPLE MY TIPS THAT I USE MYSELF TO BE SUCCESSFUL, ASK TIM ON HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN 1000 CALLS 2 LOAN APPS AND 12 MORTGAGE APPT'S!!! I ALSO OFFER SCRIPT REVIEW AND LEAD LISTS AND SOFTWARE SUPPORT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO SLANDER ME TO GET BUSINESS, LOOK I AM DOING LOANS, GOLD CALLING IS A 2ND BUSINESS THAT I DIDN'T PLAN ON DOING IT WORKED SO WELL FOR ME I OFFERED IT TO OTHER PEOPLE! MY ATTORNEY WILL BE GETTING IN CONTACT WITH REGARDING SLANDERING OF ME AND MY BUSINESS! ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO ME OR ANY OF MY SIGN UPS INCLUDING TIMOTHY HILL NO PROBLEM I'M KNOW HE WILL BACK ME! I AM DOING LOANS THAT IS MY NUMBER ONE BUSINESS KELLY DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOUR DOING MANY LOANS HOW MANY GOLD CALLING CONTRACTS ARE YOU WRITING? AND I DOUBT YOU ARE GIVING SCRIPTS AND OTHER MARKETING THINGS WITH GOLD CALLING THAT WORK BECAUSE YOU AREN'T A REAL MORTGAGE BROKER! ARASNER

[arasner]

WTF,

First off, I spoke to KellyG once, and that was the first couple of days I
owned they system. He got my number because of his Gold calling site that I
stumbled upon. I never said you weren't here to help me use the system, What
I did say is that I wanted to get his opinion on how to he used it as I like
to get multiple perspectives on how to use a product.

He actually had someone call me direct trying to say the same BS a couple
weeks ago. I will post on the thread the same thing I told the guy. I have
never given Kelly permission to use my phone number or me for that matter as
a reference and am 1 step from contacting the FTC for violation of the
Privacy act.

This guys a moron!!!

Timothy R. Hills
Mortgage Consultant
4001 Main Street
Vancouver, WA 98663
Direct: 503-816-6184
Fax: 866-375-6585



Oh By The Way....If you know anyone looking to buy, build, or refinance a
home that would appreciate our level of attention please give me a call with
their name and number and we'd be happy to follow-up with them!
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Rasner [mailto:andyrasner@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:37 AM
To:
Subject: Fw: Reply to post 'This got me 68 Closed loans last month, ck it
out!'

Hey Tim Andy I was gone on Vacation for 7 days, I apologize if you could not

get a hold of me first vacation in 2 years and already ready for another
one, Please read below what someone wrote that I am not supporting you and
you had problems with me He put this on the Mortgage BrokerLand forum and
this gentleman is not even a mortgage broker, he is a just a reseller of
gold calling, I do both and I am very succesful at both, I am always here to

support you and I have backups you ever have any problems, please email me
back and let me know, also Could you write something up on the message board

about this not being true?

[Thills]

What a wonderful thing to come back from my weekend... Someone bickering about another gold calling thread because they feel someone else stumbled onto there "territory". Kellyg, didn't you do that Mark Moore on the Outpost??? First, I am Tim Hills from Portland, OR. that Kelly is referencing in the above post. Kelly originally called me from one of his Gold Calling sites, so in my first few days of owning the system I called him back to get his opinion of how to use it along with 5 other Gold callers. I never said Andy didn't return my calls or assist me. In fact I got my first few scripts from Andy, that I tweeked to work in my market.

Frankly I am appauled that one would use my name to attempt to discredit another.

Gold Calling is just another tool, like anything else if you don't use it and perfect it for your market you won't get any results from it. It is not a magic bullet and you will need a great list, and a great script. I made 6 figs before I bought it, and have made an extra 17k after. With minimal use of the system.
You get out, what you put in. Period!

KellyG, I NEVER gave you PERMISSION to give out my PERSONAL cell phone number to anyone, or my name as a reference. If I recieve one more call I will be filing a formal complaint with your state and the FTC.

Leave my name out of this little war of yours...

Timothy Hills

[Secret!]

Originally Posted by arasner

Here is the scoop, This software actually automates everything for me, However closing the loans, processors, secretaries, pre close audit, post closing, etc. I used two processors, and a lot of loans I referred out and took a 30% cut for doing nothing,NOTHING!!!! That is the key have the time and take a smaller cut, That is my story and I'm sticking to it! Andy

OOoops, I'm sorry I thought you meant YOU closed nearly 70 loans - not referred out some - and "did nothing for 30%" <-- a point blank violation of RESPA Section 8 BTW.

[arasner]

Please go to the other posts, this kellyg is a lead provider not mortgage broker like me and he lied and got caught on the message board He said I didn't take care of Timothy Hills who bought the gold calling software from me, and Tim said What this KellyG is saying is FULL OF B.S., and Tim Made an extra $17K his first WEEK In Loan COMMISSIONS! Andy Rasner 888-727-6371