Gold Calling doesnt work

[mamoore]

KellyG

I know what I am doing that is all. I dont call people up and ask them how my script sounds or I dont ask where to get good lists. I do it all myself. I do my research and I just do it.

I must say and this is very important to EVERYONE reading this.

If your buying Gold Calling, or any other lead kit,bundle,list, transfer or AD...........Make sure you do your homework!

Dont buy something from someone who dosent know " our" business.

There are TOO MANY people out there that are making money on us because they know we have it to spend!

Like I said, I am not actively selling gold calling( I get maybe 5 new people a week) I dont look for them , they find me.

The thing that works for me is my honesty. I have heard some peoples scripts and I will tell them flat out that it stinks and it sounds like crap.I have also seen some of the leads sources that are being bought and I will say that over and over again....... you still have to buy lists. I pay $500 on 2500 filtered leads. I also get some other leads for less but the results just are not their!I know what I am looking for and I dont think that someone who is NOT in our industry could possibly help someone get business. Unless your like Carlo..... He seems to be one of the up in coming lead providers making a name for himself.

Think about this for a minute

Do you think that Someone who has never gone through what all of us brokers and loan officers have gone through or is currently going through could help make you more money ?

What is their interest in you? money? or a relationship?

I bet you said money.

My point exactly.

I know that Gold calling works for me and I have found that even some of the people who have bought the system from me that they have not been able to close deals . Like I said..... This system doesnt make you rich and all of your problems go away. There is no getting around it.... either your good or your not.

One other problem I have found is there are a lot of brokers who are lazy. they dont follow up and the application sits too long and you loose deals.

What I am saying is..... majority of the people who have bought this from me are using it and getting good results. I DONT GIVE AWAY THE STORE, but I have helped most of the people who have bought from me. On the other hand, I have heard of many people who have bought Gold calling and are so Angry that they have not given it a good name. The problem was buying it from an idiot.

I can tell you that gold calling has been a help to me with the contact manager. I put all of my lead sources into it. I use the voice broadcast and It works but I STILL DO EVERYTHING THAT I WAS DOING BEFORE GOLD CALLING. so I get a few more deals a month but the contact manager is freakin awesome. Auto follow ups..... and stuff like that.

So now I have everything in front of me so I am able to scrap the sticky notes and I dont panic when I am looking for my notes.

I also put my lenders, realtors, u/w, and providers into my gold calling system.

It does save me time and It does make me more money.

Before you buy Gold calling..... Make sure your can afford it, that your a closer, and your buying it from someone who is in our business and knows our business.

There are other leads and marketing systems that are GREAT, gold calling is good and is worth the money. Not great....but good.

Gold calling is meant for the individual LO/Broker. It will still work good for a small office.

Gold calling will not work if you cant close deals, bottom line.

The same goes for live transfers, triggers , direct mailers and everything else.

[carlo@CreditReportAtlas]

Originally Posted by mamoore

Dont buy something from someone who dosent know " our" business.

I totally agree with Mark on this statement. I was a loan officer in the past and I've had many nights and days of Ramen Noodles and Rice just to survive in the world of earning your income by commission.

Originally Posted by mamoore

I pay $500 on 2500 filtered leads. I also get some other leads for less but the results just are not their!I know what I am looking for and I dont think that someone who is NOT in our industry could possibly help someone get business. Unless your like Carlo..... He seems to be one of the up in coming lead providers making a name for himself.

That's right... you can have the super dooper predictive dialer, Protus, Gold Calling, etc. but you still need to load that gun with bullets. Also, VOIP has become the hottest thing in the mortgage marketing industry but eventually the government will catch-up on it and restrict the regulations.

One of the things that the technology could never change is human growth and needs. There are new 18 year olds that are always looking for an hourly wage and GetLeads Network oversees the issue that the way people communicate (whether by phone or by internet) will never defeat the power of HUMAN CONTACT. The way we generate our leads is pretty much hands-on. I personally train 70% of my staff to communicate with these borrowers on the phone. If you actually take 15 minutes to listen to my Live Seminar... you will experience why my operators are very good at what they're supposed to do (pre-qualifying the borrowers). I breath on their necks when their conversation with an incoming caller is going off the track.

Originally Posted by mamoore

Do you think that Someone who has never gone through what all of us brokers and loan officers have gone through or is currently going through could help make you more money ?

Darn right about that Does 2 years of slamming loans (with trial and error to generate leads and getting the phone slammed on you) qualify me in this arena?

Originally Posted by mamoore

Before you buy Gold calling..... Make sure your can afford it, that your a closer, and your buying it from someone who is in our business and knows our business.

There are other leads and marketing systems that are GREAT, gold calling is good and is worth the money. Not great....but good.

Gold calling is meant for the individual LO/Broker. It will still work good for a small office.

Gold calling will not work if you cant close deals, bottom line.

The same goes for live transfers, triggers , direct mailers and everything else.

This is an AMEN statement. I realized in the loan industry that most loan officers do really SUCK! IMHO, GetLeads Network is by far one of the best Live Transfer lead generator in the market. It will only continue to grow, BTW. No matter how responsive the leads are or how much time we spend pre-qualifying these prospects; some loan officers just can't close!!! Sometimes it's the basics that is required to get a huge job or project done.

Originally Posted by mamoore

I also find that lead providers are threatened by Gold calling .WHY? because they use some of these same tactics to generate their leads, then they sell them to you for top dollar. and to a few other brokers ...... hmmmmmmm

Ammm... I'm not scared at all. Gold Calling is just another hurdle on my track. Like mentioned above, its the hottest topic in the mortgage marketing industry but the gov't will eventually regulate it. Then when they do... the mortgage industry business owners will come back to telemarketing (do you remember spam in e-mail marketing?)

BTW, I was one of the first member that gave an awesome feedback on GC. I drove to Del Mar just to see what GC is all about and I gave a very good testimonial on it. If I was scared then I wouldn't have spent time to do my due dilligence and provide a good conclusion.

Also, here's my thoughts on these voice broadcasting systems that are going around right now, "Don't put all your stock investments in technology. The technology will make you money as fast as it'll drop out of the scene. Place your bet where the technology or the internet can't change." ~ Warren Buffet. The way people live by an hourly wage is something Gold Calling could never change.

[kellyg]

Wow....isn't time blasting by..

Anyway, I am now doing my own demos of the GC Business Communication Software. Also, we are also doing industry specific training on how to best use the software.

AND GUEST WHO'S INDUSTRY IS ON THE BOARD FOR THE NEXT FEW....YOURS.

Yes, that is correct...Steven Burke is focusing on the Mortgage Industry over the next few weeks...and if you want to learn from a marketing expert that truly understands what you need, and how to use this software to fulfill that need..feel free to join us on Mondays at 7pm EST.

For your own live one on one demo, give me a buzz. Plus, I have a special 4th July offer...you'll have to talk to me though to find out. I look forward to hearing from you and make it a great and safe weekend.

Kelly Gerards
Blanca Peak Technologies
Colorado, USA
1-866-719-9968

[mamoore]

Kelly G.

I am pretty active in the MBL I also read other threads in many other forums. I happen to like MBL the best. I see you all over all of these forums and all you do is TRY to sell Goldcalling. I have gold calling and yes I sell it as well. But this is not my main focus. I offer my knowledge and I give tips that can help many LO's that need some direction. NOT JUST GOLD CALLING. I also want to make clear to everyone ... gold calling is not a toy. Its not meant for newbies and if you cannot close deals , why would you even bother with gold calling? Maybe a career change is in order not putting yourself deaper in the whole. Now if you have had some success in the mortgage industry and you know what your doing.... have ad it and make some more money with Gold calling.

KellyG, You on the otherhand , Gold calling , gold calling gold calling and more gold calling. We get it Kelly g . The problem I see is that there is no need for you in a mortgage forum. Well at least on my thread. Maybe you dont understand , so I will explain.

When I have a thread and its about ANYTHING. Stop blasting your gold calling. I see you do it to everyone and that is just not cool. I could care less if someone buys from you and not from me. I am in the mortgage business and that is how I make my money. I just think that its respect. If you want to have a gold calling thread .... start your own. I see that you had one and it was pages opon pages of you talking to yourself.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF LEAD COMPANIES HERE AND IF YOU SEE HOW CARLO DOES IT MAYBE YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND. CARLO ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS OUR BUSINESS AND CAN OFFER ADVICE.


I DONT SEE CARLO TRYING TO SNAG A QUICK BUCK. I SEE SOMEONE WHO CARES.

Also KellyG...... I too have a firecracker special. Call or email for details.

If anyone would like to join me on a live demo or would like additional information. I will set you straight and if after talking to me you decide that you are not interested in Gold calling well at least you will know that it wasnt meant for you. Or maybe you found out that it was perfect for you. I will make it clear...... GOLD CALLING IS NOT FOR EVERYONE.

So before some of the MBL members decide to spend $1500, make sure that this investment will work with your marketing plan. LIke why would you buy a sportscar to haul a trailer?You wouldnt ,it doesnt really work and it would be a waist of money . Now on the other hand if you need a big freezer because you bought a cow.... that makes sense.

Here is something to think about... if you buy gold calling their is still cost associated with the system. OK.... it doesnt cost a lot to run the system... but in order to get the results everyone is talking about , you have to know that it goes into the targeted marketing data that is required.

So for someone who is already getting targeted data .... this would be perfect. If there is someone who wants to buy the system and has a budget to buy the data.... then have at it. A GOOD LIST could cost as low as $500 on up . Depends on count ,filter and source.

So take your GO LEADS AND INFO USA SALES GENIE lists and find somewhere else to hussle .



How do you like them apples KellyG?