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Old 01-04-2007, 12:14 PM
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Referrals - What they Can do for You!

If you're a Loan Officer these days, you probably were hired as a salesmen/bird-dog hunting down potentials applicants. Spending money ‘Advertising' is the real answer to that task, but since that's what today's Broker/owners think is the primary role of a LO, you need to be careful not to get caught in this ‘referral' trap by an inexperienced employer.

One point you need to carefully consider, is just how talented is your employer and the degree to which they train you to be the best you can be(or is he/she merely a former LO and that's all they know about being an owner).

Because they don't know any better, far too many broker/owners push their newer LO's to attract potential applicants via the "referral" method. That's where you pester all your friends, relatives, and others to use you themselves, when they have a mortgage need, and to also send you their contacts.

The boss – who should already knows better – neglects to reveal to you those friends and family and the carefully cultivated referral sources will probably blow up in your face when one of their loans: 1). has an appraisal that comes in 'short'?; 2). The credit score doesn't support the loan they need; 3). your wholesaler stips you to death - and many of them are silly; 4). The doc prep girl at the wholesaler drops the ball getting your docs correct and out on time; 5). the notary/closer messes up the signing – oops; 6). and the next 50 things that DO go wrong on most loans every single day. So you simply CAN'T be efficient and keep your promises to the customer, providing excellent service like you want to. This is where your supplier/vendors make YOU look clueless and seriously unprofessional.

Consider at what's that will do to your 'relationships' -- be honest. I have found over the years the "referral" biz plan simply doesn't work over time. A definite way to stay small, Yep - on that issue I agree - but growth? Nope

What you seriously have to offer any applicant – if you get properly trained - is (a). your own skills at being an LO, (b). which includes the loan programs your employer makes available to you, AND (c). the supporting vendor/suppliers who have a major effect on all the moving parts that come into play between 1003 and funding. Instead of ‘referrals', These are where you should concentrate your attention, getting trained, clearly understand loan programs you'll use, understanding what all the vendor/suppliers do and how you can help manage them, as your loans move through your pipeline – focusing on referrals isn't gonna be a good idea, you'll quickly discover if you don't do these things.

Far as customer/potential borrowers, cold markets (strangers) are far easier to handle when things go wrong (plus they won't expect you to earn nearly near zero on their loans). If you don't have a boss who can supply you with these things, and to advertise for customers to come to his/her company, it's time to resolve to change employer's right away this new year! Get with a company that prides itself on its Integrity, Ethics, and solid Values - these are the characteristics which will help you the most in your career.
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I agree with secret that you making 'referrals' or incentive does not make a boat load of money. Nobody i know does biz that way.

However, if you are LICENCED in a state but do not have a specific lender signed up that can help the borrower, you can flip it to another LICENCED broker in that same state to do the loan for a fee.
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I agree with secret that you making 'referrals' or incentive does not make a boat load of money. Nobody i know does biz that way.

However, if you are LICENCED in a state but do not have a specific lender signed up that can help the borrower, you can flip it to another LICENCED broker in that same state to do the loan for a fee.
Thanks for the endorsement of this concept; I don't understand how you tied this point to In-state Co-brokering - called "third party originations" by most wholesalers who FORBID IT, but Thanks for your reply and Happy New Year.
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You guys are crazy. You can definitely make money on referrals. Referrals are not limited to just having a friend or family member do business with you or giving your card to their friends.

Referrals come from branding yourself as well, and I'd say much moreso than just hitting up your friends and family. What you guys are talking about is network marketing, or the dreaded MLM approach.

I interpret "referrals" the same as I do "word-of-mouth advertising". Absolutely nothing wrong with it, and if you can get it, it's the best kind of advertising you can have. But, as always, just my opinion.
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You guys are crazy. You can definitely make money on referrals. Referrals are not limited to just having a friend or family member do business with you or giving your card to their friends.

Referrals come from branding yourself as well, and I'd say much moreso than just hitting up your friends and family. What you guys are talking about is network marketing, or the dreaded MLM approach.

I interpret "referrals" the same as I do "word-of-mouth advertising". Absolutely nothing wrong with it, and if you can get it, it's the best kind of advertising you can have. But, as always, just my opinion.
You may have mis-understood what I was trying to say Erik; "word-of-mouth advertising" is EXACTLY the business plan people use, who want to stay small and not grow their business. Surely there's a place for those folks in the industry, they do well staying small out yonder in rural America.

It's been my experience from the wide range and volume of contacts we receive where I work, that that paradigm is usually pushed by broker/owners on new LO's, because they're too CHEAP to advertise, and/or they are clueless on how to advertise and market a business - it cheats the LO's my point. MLM was not in my mind when I wrote that, I was aiming at what I just said, along with the notion of BEGGING referral sources (like Realtors) for business - only to have your vendor/suppliers goof up (like they do all the time for you and everybody else Erik) and KILL that (Realtor) 'relationship'.
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You want to learn more on referrals? This is the place to go. I've heard good things about this person's work.

http://www.requesting-referrals.com/
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If you are talking about only going after referrals, then yeah - I'd say that's a good way to stay small. But referrals are a natural part of any marketing/advertising you do - as long as you are good at what you do. However, to say all referrals are not worth it or bad is just not accurate.
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Well, speaking of referrals.. my brother just called me and he wants to sell his time share. Does anyone know how I can go about doing this? Any reference to information is appreciated. Thanks.
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