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Old 11-16-2007, 02:09 PM
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Ok so I had to answer my own question about Lenox

For anyone competing against another lender that offers no closings costs. Email this link to them and you will have yourself a loan. Then read in delight. You will now have a chance to earn more business from your borrowers. Who are convinced by the The decieving minds of Lenox and many others. Why can't you just sell honestly. It works for me, and then I get my customers calling me back with their friends.

This website has helped me out so much, to all those newbies out there listen to Eric. He has a good head on his shoulders. And check out loanofficersurvival.com It really saves. Especially when all you have is a desk a pen and a list of old title leads. HAHAH

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Theres the link go check it out and respond. THanks
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:04 AM
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Oh I just had to throw my .02 cents in that blog too. Awaiting moderation but here is what I said:

Another way I compare this option to consumers is by using an apples to apples approach. The cost analysis is used as well. Depending on the mortgage company and their ability to accept additional principle payments this comparison seems to also make more sense even though it is more complex.

Scenario 1: A $200,000 mortgage at 6.00% has a payment of $1199.01 on a 30 yr term.

Total exact savings monthly $131.60
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This Scenario 1 also assumes you pay the closing costs out of pocket on the 6.00% mortgage. I do not feel that is what the majority of consumers would do. The majority would rather finance the closing costs. I will use $5,000 as an estimate for closing costs in scenario 2.

Scenario 2: A $205,000 mortgage at 6.00% is a payment of $1229.07 on a 30 yr term.

Total exact savings monthly $101.54
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Then here is the so called "No Closing Cost"

A $200,000 mortgage at 7.00% has a payment of $1330.61 on a 30 year term.
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Scenario 1: If you take the additional savings and re-invest it into the mortgage your balance would be:

Years / Principle Balance (Scenario) / Principle Balance (No CC)
1 yr $197,543.97 $197,968.38
2 yr $194,936.47 $195,789.90
3 yr $192,168.14 $193,453.93
4 yr $189,229.06 $190,949.09

So before you hit 2 years into the note you are at a lower principle balance than the loan with closing costs built into it.

Scenario 2:

Years / Principle Balance (Scenario) / Principle Balance (No CC)
1 yr $201,230.13 $197,968.38
2 yr $197,227.70 $195,789.90
3 yr $192.978.50 $193,453.93
4 yr $188,467.16 $190,949.09

Now this one makes you hit around 2.5 years.

So when you do Scenario 1 with a savings of $131.60 and you divide that into $5,000 you break even at 37.99 months

And with Scenario #2 you have to do a more extensive breakdown than the above to realize your true break even point because interest is being charged on the $5,000. So there are 2 ways to look at it.

Apples to Apples would be when your principle hits 200,000

If you just pay the standard payment then it is far to complicated to even explain to most consumers. You are keeping monthly savings but you are also paying interest on the $5,000.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:03 PM
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This is starting to heat up. I should have just kept my mouth shut. I got myself into something on this guys blog post.

Although what he says about the company may be true to some extent he sorta stuck his own foot in his mouth later on when Brenden posted.

If he allows my final comment to post you will see what I mean.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:47 AM
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Hey

I only see two comments, wheres the heat?
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:06 PM
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I think he knows what he is saying and he rebounded well. The theme is more an overall concept of allowing marketing that targets reduced cc or no cc.

He is pretty much on the money and did not get on the defensive. I like it and agree with what he is saying. However, I still do not like him painting the LO's of the company like that. I am sure some give the customers good loans and good advice.
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