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Old 12-20-2005, 08:59 AM
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IL Government Making Things Tough On Loan Originators

Most of my business comes from Cook County and here in IL

Starting Jan 1 there is a new law HB 4050 that will require certain zip codes in Cook County to be part of Pilot program that requires loan officers to submit to the state every detail of the borrowers loan and then they may or may not BE REQUIRED to attend Debt Counseling which then based on the counselor's decision they are oked by the state to go ahead and refinance or purchase the property. The counselor can also say no benefit or shop around.

This is just part of this new law in Pilot program.
This will slow the origination process by up to 20 days.

But that is not the worst part. Since the State does not have all the specifics decided yet. All the investors and title insurance will not accept loans for all of cook county for all of Jan and Possibly beyond...

The state basically stated that there will be no loans closed for cook county all of Jan as well.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:30 AM
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Whoa... not only does that sound like it will kill the mortgage business in Cook County, but that's a scary abuse of power by the government. Do you have any links to more information? This sounds like a very, very bad step toward socialism. Governmental signoff required to purchase property?? Insane.

What's next? Governmental signoff to purchase groceries?
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:13 PM
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Wow!

What kind of criteria is being used to determine if a loan has benefit and is ok to proceed with?
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:22 PM
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This is planning to go state wide after 4 years in IL.
Here is a break down of the law with some links at the bottom

Perfect credit applicants are not exempt
Fixed rate mortgage are not exempt
If title companies will not issue clear title policies, lenders will not lend to mortgage applicants regardless of the law

Conditions that trigger Illinois House Bill 4050
FICO score less than 620, or
FICO score is between 621-650 and any one of these conditions is true:
Subject property was financed within the last 12 months
Mortgage product has an Interest Only feature
Mortgage product is an ARM with an initial fixed period of 3 years or less
Down payment is less than 5% of the purchase price
Mortgage product contains a prepayment penalty
Mortgage product contains a negative amortization feature (i.e. Option ARM)

About the affected areas
HB 4050 will include some, or all, of Cook County, Illinois.
That decision can be legally delayed until February 1, 2006. Therefore, until February 1, 2006 or an announcement from the DBRE, we must assume that all of Cook County is affected.

About counseling for mortgage applicants
All counseling must be completed face-to-face, not by telephone or Internet
All counseling must be paid for by the originating mortgage lender
Counseling may not be waived under any circumstances

About credit counseling and credit counselors
All counselors must be HUD-approved
Counselors can recommend to applicants that they go elsewhere to apply for a loan
Counselors can only make these recommendations:
Go forward with the loan
Look at another program or lender
Indicate that the rate is above market conditions
Proceed with the loan
The applicant can ignore the recommendation of the counselor
Once counseling is completed, a certificate is issued to applicant

About the HB 4050 application process
Within 10 days of application, the originating lender must submit applicant data to Illinois state database
Applicants are provided a list of HUD-approved counselors
Applicants must schedule in-person counseling session within 10 days
Counselor must submit report to Illinois state database within 7 days of counseling completion
Title company must verify with Illinois state database that applicant completed counseling
Title company cannot close loan without Certificate of Completion if applicant is required to attend counseling

About the Illinois state database
Stores personal information of all mortgage applicants in the state of Illinois
Originators, counselors, and title companies are permitted to submit data to database

What remains unknown (as of 16 December 2005)
The status of the Illinois state database (i.e. is it complete and ready for use?)
The cost of counseling for applicants
The legality of HB 4050 under Illinois state law

What can keep your mortgage from funding in the affected areas
Title companies are concerned to issue clear title policies
Title companies may not insure loans or issue riders pertaining to IL HB 4050 because of legal liabilities
Lenders won't lend if title is not clear because that would lenders would forgo their right to foreclose

Most important thing to know
If title companies decide that Illinois House Bill 4050 is a legal landmine, they will choose to avoid insuring areas affected by it and the "HB 4050 Triggers" portion becomes a moot point -- there will be no lending at all.

And there you have it. Just the facts.

http://www.idfpr.com/FinLit101/Docs/...oryLending.pdf

http://www.nationalmortgagenews.com/...ow=plus164.htm

http://www.obre.state.il.us/CBT/LEGAL/2005LegSum.htm

http://www.klng.com/files/tbl_s48New...NA_Article.pdf
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Case closed. There is all the facts. Thanks!

I am thinking we might want to edit the title. Just a suggestion.

More places do this now. It is growing in interest. Cleveland, Oh. is somewhat like this.
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:51 PM
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changing the title would be fine only a moderator can do that I have no editing powers
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Loan Wolf this is most interesting, may I ask that you keep us abreast of how his effects your lively hood/business. I wonder how the bigger shops are going to handle this situation? The reason I ask that is normally you can just look to them and thier bullpen of legal eagles to find away to handle issues like these and copy them. Why reinvent the wheel?

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Unbelievable. It doesn't sound to me like this will help reduce the foreclosure rate. What it will do is cause a shift in origination production from brokers to chartered banks, who are exempt.

Very interesting situation you have there in Chicago, Wolf. Definitely keep us posted on developments.
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How is that Wolf? Let me know if you want something else.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:49 AM
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thats great greg, Thanks





Yes chartered banks can do loans BUT all loans have Title insurance and title companies are not excempt so we are back at square one no loans closed until they figure this thing out
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