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Old 01-07-2006, 08:00 PM
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Been done for more than 20 years that I know about, it's just new to you!
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Secret you did not know the entire industry in 1 day so have some sympathy for those who are trying to learn.

At least this forum is not scenario driven! Give us some credit.

Just my thoughts. I know kind of how you think about loan officers. This board will be more educational. We are trying.

In closing I support your theory on learning as much as you can and getting the facts. You have a ton of great education available for everyone and I strongly suggest everyone visits Secrets web page and considers his training materials as I "think" the are more factual than opionated. I can not form and opinion as I have not seen any of his materials for sale.

But I have read his site and I truely believe that they will be worth the investment.
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Thanks for those kind words again Greg. And you're right, I didn't learn everything my first day in this industry, merely wanted to point out this isn't a new thing, so no need to get all up-in-arms ... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em
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Hey Erik,

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Nice, thanks APM!
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Oh yeah that is the one. Hmm I am clicking the scale icon too! Nice post!!! Now I can scratch that off my list.
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Finally did this. Boy that was easy!

Anyone check credit to see if it improved your scores yet?
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MBL'ers - just an FYI regarding mortgage trigger data...I recently received a report of the three bureau daily opt-outs from the prescreened maketing file ( if you read mortgage offers stating you have been pre-approved, they are using live credit attributes and must give you the 888 4OPT-OUT number.

Long story short - Experian is losing over 40,000 consumers a day that are opting out...most of these are homeowners...if you market with prescreened data and telemarket, you know that the DNC coupled with this is making your addressable market very small, very fast.

Trigger data as the bureaus call it, flags a mortgage inquiry and makes it available for resale to mortgage marketers with permissable purpose. These lists are more expensive than traditional data but they tell you that there is blood in the water. This prospect filled out a 1003 with somebody regarding a mortgage in the last 24 hours. To effectively market to this group you MUST contact them within the next 24-48 hours. TU sells their triger data as a 7 day file - and it doesn't give the ROI/bang for the buck as the 24 hour hotline.

If you are using these to market to subprime borrowers - they need based borrowers usually stop shopping when their loan has been approved so time is of the essense. They want to know how quickly they can get their money and whoever can lead that horse to water fastests wins!

In the most recent copy of DM News, a financial services company noted that 90 days after the mortgage inquiry triggered - 19.6%, nearly 1 in 5 had obtained a new mortgage loan.

If you want any more detail about these types of leads, let me know. Mortgage data and mortgage marketing is my passion. I'll be glad to share any info I have.

Now let's make some money!!!!

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